Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

02/14/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:35:40 PM Start
01:36:44 PM HB39 || HB41
01:37:26 PM Fy 24 Budget Overview: Department of Health
03:12:58 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 41 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY24 Budget by Comissioner-Designee TELECONFERENCED
Heidi Hedberg; and Josie Stern, Assistant
Commissioner, Department of Health
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 14, 2023                                                                                          
                         1:35 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:35 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative DeLena Johnson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
Representative Alyse Galvin                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Will Stapp                                                                                                       
Representative Frank Tomaszewski                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Heidi Hedberg, Commissioner-Designee,  Department of Health;                                                                    
Josie Stern,  Assistant Commissioner, Department  of Health;                                                                    
Emily  Ricci,  Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of  Health;                                                                    
Renee Gayhart, Director,  Healthcare Services, Department of                                                                    
Health.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Deb  Etheridge,  Director,  Division of  Public  Assistance,                                                                    
Department of Health; Dr. Anne  Zink, Chief Medical Officer,                                                                    
Department of Health.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 39     APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          HB 39 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 41     APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 41 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FY 24 BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 39                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^FY 24 BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI HEDBERG, COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE,  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,                                                                    
introduced herself and her staff.  She provided a PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation titled  "State of Alaska Department  of Health:                                                                    
House  Finance Committee  Budget  Overview," dated  February                                                                    
14,  2023  (copy  on  file).   She  began  on  slide  2  and                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  Department   of  Health  and  Social                                                                    
Services  (DHSS) had  split into  the  Department of  Health                                                                    
(DOH) and the Department of Family and Community Services                                                                       
(DFCS) on July 1, 2022. She read from prepared remarks:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This visual on  slide 2 is a helpful  reminder of which                                                                    
     divisions  went  to  which  department.  Department  of                                                                    
     Health  retained the  prevention  systems and  payment.                                                                    
     The  Department of  Family and  Community Services  has                                                                    
     the direct  care services also commonly  referred to as                                                                    
     the 24/7 facilities.  The department reorganization was                                                                    
     good. It provides a smaller  span of control and allows                                                                    
     the  commissioners  to  focus on  divisional  work  and                                                                    
     system  operations that  support population  health and                                                                    
     person-centered services. The  Department of Health and                                                                    
     Department  of Family  and Community  Services continue                                                                    
     to coordinate  on approving the  continuum of  care for                                                                    
     person-centered  care and  working together  on complex                                                                    
     care coordination.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Complex care  coordination is defined by  a person that                                                                    
     utilizes more than one  division or department program.                                                                    
     These individuals have complex  needs and require a lot                                                                    
     of  resources  and  supports  that  can  be  incredibly                                                                    
     costly. Both departments are working  on a complex care                                                                    
     plan,  which will  help streamline  healthcare services                                                                    
     with the desired result of  better client care and cost                                                                    
     savings.   In  addition,   the  two   departments  also                                                                    
     continue to  share IT  resources and  are working  on a                                                                    
     road map to  separate those IT resources.  The May 2021                                                                    
     cyberattack    highlighted    the   technology    debt,                                                                    
     overburdened,  and overtaxed  IT  systems. The  roadmap                                                                    
     will   support   both   departments   identifying   the                                                                    
     necessary  resources  to  support the  HIPAA  compliant                                                                    
     services for Alaskans.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg moved to DOH's mission on slide 3. She                                                                     
read from prepared remarks:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Slide  3  is  the  Department of  Health's  mission  to                                                                    
     promote  and  protect  the health  and  well-being  and                                                                    
     self-sufficiency of  Alaskans with  a focus  on systems                                                                    
     of care to ensure Alaskans receive timely services.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We  serve  every  Alaskan from  birth  through  elders.                                                                    
     While not exclusive,  but to give context  for what the                                                                    
     budget   supports,  a   few  examples   include  senior                                                                    
     benefits;  Medicaid   eligibility;  background  checks;                                                                    
     licensing  and oversight  of  healthcare and  childcare                                                                    
     facilities; Medicaid services  such as physical health,                                                                    
     dental  care,  and  behavioral health  services;  vital                                                                    
     records like  birth, marriage, and  death certificates;                                                                    
     and personal  care attendants for seniors  and Alaskans                                                                    
     that have disabilities.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The department  has ten appropriations that  operate as                                                                    
     six divisions  and Medicaid. The  list of  divisions is                                                                    
     on the slide.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg moved to an organizational chart on                                                                        
slide 4 and read from prepared remarks:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Slide 4 is  just a visual reference; it's  a great tool                                                                    
     to  see which  programs  are within  each division.  We                                                                    
     also have a handful of  boards that are associated with                                                                    
     the Department of Health.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOSIE STERN,  ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH,                                                                    
reviewed  slide 5  titled  "Department  of Health  Operating                                                                    
Budget  Comparison FY2022-FY2024."  She  read from  prepared                                                                    
remarks:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Looking at this  chart you can see  that the Department                                                                    
     of Health's  total FY 2024  requested budget  is around                                                                    
     $3.1 billion. This slide  does not include Departmental                                                                    
     Support  Services,  Human Services  Community  Matching                                                                    
     Grants,  and  Community   Initiative  Matching  Grants.                                                                    
     These items  are usually presented  as a  singular item                                                                    
     and  are not  shown here  because the  majority of  the                                                                    
     changes  that  occurred  with the  bifurcation  of  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services  occurred                                                                    
     within  Departmental Support  Services. If  these items                                                                    
     are  included, the  total  requested  budget is  around                                                                    
     $3.14 billion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This graph  presents three budget aspects:  Fiscal Year                                                                    
     2022, which  represents the total actual  spending from                                                                    
     July  1,  2021  to  June 30,  2022;  Fiscal  Year  2023                                                                    
     management  plan, which  is a  true-up of  implementing                                                                    
     the FY  2023 enacted budget;  and the Fiscal  Year 2023                                                                    
     governor, which is the  governor's proposed budget that                                                                    
                                  th                                                                                            
     and   2024  show   the  budgetary   authority  of   the                                                                    
     department.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Looking across  these total numbers for  the Department                                                                    
     of Health,  there have  been increases  in unrestricted                                                                    
     general fund,  also known as UGF,  driven by inflation,                                                                    
     increased  utilization, as  well as  federal and  state                                                                    
     rate  increases.  As  a result,  the  majority  of  the                                                                    
     increases reside in Medicaid Services.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The department received more  federal funding in Fiscal                                                                    
     Year 2022 due to  an increased enhanced Federal Medical                                                                    
     Assistance  Percentage,  also  known as  e-FMAP,  which                                                                    
     accounts   for  the   largest  difference   in  federal                                                                    
     authority from  FY 2022 to  FY 2024. There was  also an                                                                    
     adjustment   in   Fiscal   Year  2022   to   remove   a                                                                    
     reimbursable services agreement  with the Department of                                                                    
     Military  and Veterans  Affairs,  Division of  Homeland                                                                    
     Security  and Emergency  Management from  federal COVID                                                                    
     to other COVID.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  department  received   funding  from  the  Federal                                                                    
     Emergency Management  Agency, also  known as  FEMA, for                                                                    
     COVID-19 activities by this department.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY RICCI, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,                                                                         
reviewed slide 6 with prepared remarks:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid is  a joint state/federal program  that offers                                                                    
     health insurance to low  income families, children, and                                                                    
     individuals, as  well as  those with  disabilities. The                                                                    
     purpose of  the Medicaid  program is to  provide health                                                                    
     coverage   to  Alaskans   in  need.   Medicaid  is   an                                                                    
     entitlement  program,   meaning  those  who   meet  the                                                                    
     eligibility  criteria are  entitled to  benefits. These                                                                    
     benefits are  outlined in state and  federal regulation                                                                    
     and statute as well as  through a state plan. The state                                                                    
     plan acts as the agreement  between the State of Alaska                                                                    
     and  the federal  government  outlining which  services                                                                    
     will  be  provided  to  which  individuals  under  what                                                                    
     circumstances.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I  would  emphasize  that  because   this  is  a  joint                                                                    
     program, making changes to  the program is challenging,                                                                    
     time consuming,  and frequently requires  state statute                                                                    
     and  regulatory changes  followed  by  submission of  a                                                                    
     state  plan  amendment  to   the  federal  Centers  for                                                                    
     Medicare  and  Medicaid  Services (CMS).  The  Medicaid                                                                    
     program plays  an important role  in the lives  of many                                                                    
     Alaskans  with   over  262,000   individuals  currently                                                                    
     enrolled  in  the  program.  This  represents  over  35                                                                    
     percent  of Alaskans  making  this  the largest  health                                                                    
     coverage in the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     As I  stated earlier, this  program is a  joint program                                                                    
     financed by both the federal  government and the state.                                                                    
     At a minimum,  the state shares 50 percent  of the cost                                                                    
     of eligible services  including administrative services                                                                    
     with  the  federal  government covering  the  other  50                                                                    
     percent. In practice, the total  cost share between the                                                                    
     state and  the federal government is  higher, averaging                                                                    
     between 72 to  73 percent. This is  because the federal                                                                    
     match,  called the  FMAP, which  was  discussed in  the                                                                    
     last  slide,  may  be  higher   for  certain  types  of                                                                    
     services.  For  example,  the federal  government  will                                                                    
     fund 90  percent of  administrative costs  for Medicaid                                                                    
     systems development,  100 percent of  eligible services                                                                    
     through the Indian Health Service  or our tribal health                                                                    
     organizations,   90  percent   of  cost   for  Medicaid                                                                    
     expansion,  and  65  percent  of  associated  with  the                                                                    
     Children's Health  Insurance Program. So,  between that                                                                    
     blend, you  tend to see higher  overall federal matches                                                                    
     than the 50/50.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     You  may   notice  there  are  no   specific  positions                                                                    
     associated with  the Medicaid component in  the budget,                                                                    
     the work  and the  positions to administer  the program                                                                    
     are  embedded  in  the  division's  budget  lines.  Any                                                                    
     additional funding  the divisions are able  to leverage                                                                    
     or any cost  savings they achieve are  reflected in the                                                                    
     Medicaid  budget rather  than  their division  budgets.                                                                    
     This  is a  large program,  as you  can see,  the total                                                                    
     spend in state  Fiscal Year 2022 was  $2.5 billion, the                                                                    
     state's share for that was  about $610 million with the                                                                    
     federal share at $1.8 billion.  To put that in context,                                                                    
     what  this means  on an  operational basis  is that  in                                                                    
     state  Fiscal  Year  2022,   6.3  million  claims  were                                                                    
     processed within the Medicaid  program and that creates                                                                    
     a  weekly check  write of  between $45  million to  $50                                                                    
     million.  Every  week  the teams  in  the  Division  of                                                                    
     Health  Care Services  and  other divisions  supporting                                                                    
     the Medicaid program are paying  out $45 to $50 million                                                                    
     and processing annually 6.3 million claims.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci turned to slide 7 and spoke about Medicaid cost                                                                       
drivers and cost containment with prepared remarks:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  slide briefly  highlights a  combination of  cost                                                                    
     drivers and cost savings  or cost containment measures.                                                                    
     I'm going to start with  the cost drivers and then walk                                                                    
     through some of the cost savings or cost containment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  primary  cost  driver  or  cost  savings  reflects                                                                    
     changes in federal regulations  that impact the federal                                                                    
     match  we  discussed in  the  prior  slide. Aside  from                                                                    
     enrollment, the  item that has the  largest cost impact                                                                    
     are  changes to  the percentage  in the  federal match.                                                                    
     Increases in  the federal match  like the  enhanced 6.2                                                                    
     federal  match  we have  received  for  the past  three                                                                    
     years,  can result  in  substantial  offset of  general                                                                    
     fund   dollars   required    to   fund   the   program.                                                                    
     Alternatively, reductions  in the federal  match, which                                                                    
     we're  going to  experience with  the reduction  of the                                                                    
     6.2 enhanced  federal match beginning this  spring, can                                                                    
     result  in increased  costs to  the  state. Other  cost                                                                    
     drivers include inflationary  adjustments in the amount                                                                    
     that providers are paid.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  average Medicaid  inflationary  rate component  in                                                                    
     Fiscal   Year  21   and  22   was  1.8   percent.  This                                                                    
     inflationary  rate  is  significantly lower  than  what                                                                    
     we've heard  providers actually  experience and  we all                                                                    
     see this  in our own  experiences at the  grocery store                                                                    
     or  purchasing other  items. Rates  are also  routinely                                                                    
     adjusted.  They are  reviewed and  reset on  a schedule                                                                    
     outlined generally in regulation.  The timing for these                                                                    
     adjustments  varies  depending  on  the  service.  More                                                                    
     frequently, rates  are redetermined or rebased  for the                                                                    
     first  year  of a  four-year  cycle  and then  inflated                                                                    
     annually  for the  following three  years. The  process                                                                    
     then repeats.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Another  important cost  driver  is  enrollment in  the                                                                    
     program. In  2020, in response to  the pandemic, states                                                                    
     across  the  nation  suspended eligibility  reviews  or                                                                    
     what we  call redetermination,  as part of  the federal                                                                    
     government's response  to the COVID-19  pandemic. We're                                                                    
     going to talk  about this in more detail  in the future                                                                    
     slides,  specifically slide  9, but  the result  was an                                                                    
     increase in  the overall Medicaid enrollment  by around                                                                    
     30,000 Alaskans  between 2020 and today.  The good news                                                                    
     is that  there's been some  very strong  and successful                                                                    
     efforts to  contain costs within the  Medicaid program.                                                                    
     The most impactful of these  is tribal reclaiming. This                                                                    
     is a  process where  the state is  able to  receive 100                                                                    
     percent   of  federal   funds  for   eligible  services                                                                    
     provided  to a  tribal member  covered by  the Medicaid                                                                    
     program in certain circumstances.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In  FY 22,  the  state saved  $74  million through  the                                                                    
     tribal reclaiming  program. Since this  process started                                                                    
     in 2017,  states have saved nearly  $380 million. Other                                                                    
     important   saving    mechanisms   include   recovering                                                                    
     eligible drug  rebates, which  created $123  million in                                                                    
     savings  in FY  22 as  well as  ensuring Medicaid  is a                                                                    
     payer of last  resort, meaning that if  there are other                                                                    
     health insurance  plans or other coverages  that should                                                                    
     be  paying first,  those  coverages  are paying  first.                                                                    
     This  is also  called subrogation.  This ensures  other                                                                    
     eligible  insurers like  Medicaid  are  picking up  the                                                                    
     bill. In  Fiscal Year  2022, these  activities resulted                                                                    
     in around  $470 million  in cost avoidance;  however, a                                                                    
     portion  of that  would be  experienced by  the federal                                                                    
     government, not  just the  state. Other  important cost                                                                    
     saving  measures   include  program   integrity,  which                                                                    
     focuses on eliminating fraud and  abuse as well as case                                                                    
     management programs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  asked if  there  was  any  way to  do  the                                                                    
presentation without  reading verbatim. He wanted  to have a                                                                    
back and  forth conversation.  He appreciated  the attention                                                                    
to the detail, but he requested a dialogue.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  was also  having  a  hard time  following                                                                    
along. She asked to hear a summary of slide 7.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci explained  there were major cost  drivers and cost                                                                    
saving measures  the state engaged  in regularly.  One major                                                                    
cost  driver  was federal  match  (whether  it increased  or                                                                    
decreased  it  could be  a  cost  driver or  cost  savings).                                                                    
Another  cost  driver  was  enrollment   of  the  number  of                                                                    
individuals  in the  Medicaid program,  which could  change.                                                                    
There was  most recently a  change with the response  to the                                                                    
COVID-19  pandemic in  2020, which  required that  enrollees                                                                    
remain continuously  eligible and  resulted in  about 30,000                                                                    
additional enrollees.  A third  cost driver was  an increase                                                                    
in rates,  particularly in relation to  inflationary factors                                                                    
as well  as the routine  review of rate  rebasing undertaken                                                                    
by  the   department.  On  the  cost   saving  side,  tribal                                                                    
reclaiming had  fundamentally changed how the  state engaged                                                                    
with  the  tribal  system  and   how  the  Medicaid  program                                                                    
benefitted from the system.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan   shared  that  she  served   on  the                                                                    
Department  of Corrections  (DOC)  subcommittee  and one  of                                                                    
DOC's large  costs was  health and  rehabilitative services.                                                                    
She elaborated  that when people  went into  custody, except                                                                    
for   24-hour   stays   in  the   hospital,   Medicaid   was                                                                    
discontinued for those who had  previously been covered. She                                                                    
explained  it was  an  element of  Medicaid  in the  state's                                                                    
expansion waiver.  She expounded that  Representative Justin                                                                    
Ruffridge, who also  served on the DOC  subcommittee and was                                                                    
a  pharmacist by  trade, had  stated the  situation was  not                                                                    
supposed  to happen  under  Obamacare  expansion. She  noted                                                                    
they had been told off the  record that it depended on how a                                                                    
state implemented  Medicaid expansion. She was  curious when                                                                    
Medicaid  expansion had  been implemented  if the  state had                                                                    
talked  about including  coverage  for  its the  corrections                                                                    
population.  She  stated  that  without  Medicaid  or  other                                                                    
insurance the funds  came straight out of  UGF budgeting for                                                                    
DOC.  She noted  the  department had  some cost  containment                                                                    
measures  going but  the corrections  population was  pretty                                                                    
unhealthy.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  answered that the  department would follow  up on                                                                    
the  question. She  explained  that  the state's  [Medicaid]                                                                    
coverage  terms were  nuanced,  particularly regarding  more                                                                    
than 24 hours out of  a facility, they followed the national                                                                    
standard.  She  remarked  that  California  had  received  a                                                                    
waiver  in  the  past  several  weeks  to  provide  expanded                                                                    
coverage to  incarcerated individuals. She noted  it was the                                                                    
first of its kind that had been approved nationally.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  about  tribal  reclaiming.  He                                                                    
stated  his  understanding that  in  FY  22 there  had  been                                                                    
159,000   applications  for   tribal   reclaiming  and   the                                                                    
department had only  been able to reclaim 20  percent of the                                                                    
total. He asked  what the state could do  to increase tribal                                                                    
reclaiming in the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci deferred to a colleague.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RENEE GAYHART, DIRECTOR,  HEALTHCARE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
HEALTH,  answered that  tribal  reclaiming  started in  2016                                                                    
after  the state  health official  letter allowed  states to                                                                    
reclaim the remaining balance on  American Indian and Alaska                                                                    
Native beneficiaries.  She explained that in  order to enter                                                                    
reclaiming  there had  to be  a care  coordination agreement                                                                    
between  a tribe  and the  non-tribal  entity when  services                                                                    
were referred  out to a non-tribal  setting. She highlighted                                                                    
an  example  where a  patient  went  from the  ANMC  [Alaska                                                                    
Native  Medical  Center]  to  Seattle  Children's  Hospital.                                                                    
There  would  have  to  be  an  agreement  between  the  two                                                                    
entities to enter any kind of reclaiming.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gayhart  elaborated that the referral  validation had to                                                                    
be  validated  by the  tribal  health  organization for  the                                                                    
State of Alaska. She detailed  that many referrals were lost                                                                    
because  of the  way  data exchanged  or  did not  exchange.                                                                    
Additionally, the exchange of data  had to go back and forth                                                                    
between the  two entities.  For example,  if a  patient went                                                                    
from ANMC  to Seattle  Children's Hospital for  a transplant                                                                    
and then came  back to Alaska, the records would  have to go                                                                    
back and forth. She stated that  when all was said and done,                                                                    
it  was necessary  to  have  all three  of  the elements  in                                                                    
place. She reasoned  it may seem as at  though 159,000 claim                                                                    
lines was  substantial while only 20  percent was reclaimed;                                                                    
however, it  was often because  the exchange  of information                                                                    
systems were  not speaking to  each other (i.e.,  the health                                                                    
records and exchange of the  records). She noted the process                                                                    
was manual  and administratively burdensome.  The department                                                                    
had been working with CMS to see  if it could come up with a                                                                    
more  streamlined approach.  She  highlighted  the State  of                                                                    
Alaska was  the most  aggressive tribal reclaiming  state in                                                                    
the  union.   She  relayed  that  many   other  states  were                                                                    
following  Alaska's lead.  The state  was pressuring  CMS to                                                                    
change  the  way it  looked  at  the state  health  official                                                                    
letter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:00:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Tomaszewski  asked  if  the  department  was                                                                    
using  the  same  dilapidated programming  to  get  Medicaid                                                                    
redeterminations. He  asked if the  process had  started and                                                                    
whether  the department  was prepared.  He wondered  whether                                                                    
the   department    would   be    able   to    process   the                                                                    
redeterminations quickly.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  answered that  slide 9 would  cover the  topic in                                                                    
more  detail. She  relayed that  the systems  the department                                                                    
had  available to  maintain  Medicaid  eligibility were  the                                                                    
same systems the  department had. The systems  would be used                                                                    
through  the redetermination  process. She  elaborated there                                                                    
was a  lot of ongoing work  that would continue in  the next                                                                    
several months. She stated it  was a large challenge for all                                                                    
states.  There were  certain timeframes  and guidelines  the                                                                    
state  had  adhere  to  in order  to  communicate  with  CMS                                                                    
regarding  its  ability  and   plan  to  operationalize  the                                                                    
redetermination process.  She would elaborate more  on slide                                                                    
9.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  understood that  tribal reclaiming                                                                    
had  started up  under the  prior administration.  He stated                                                                    
his understanding  that additional staff for  the effort had                                                                    
been   funded.   He   assumed  there   were   not   infinite                                                                    
possibilities to fully reclaim and  see savings. He asked if                                                                    
his statements were accurate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Gayhart answered  that it was not  necessarily the case.                                                                    
She  clarified that  during the  pandemic there  had been  a                                                                    
reduction in  services delivery and  transportation overall.                                                                    
She  explained  that  the reductions  resulted  because  the                                                                    
services  did  not happen  and  there  had been  nothing  to                                                                    
reclaim. There would  be an increase in  the out-years after                                                                    
the  pandemic  because  the  services  started  to  increase                                                                    
again. She elaborated  that the state was  reclaiming on the                                                                    
backend, but  if the tribes started  providing more services                                                                    
on the  frontend, 100 percent  would occur on  the frontend,                                                                    
making the  work on the  backend unnecessary.  She explained                                                                    
that the staff  that were hired were working  on two fronts:                                                                    
they were working  with the tribes to expand  service on the                                                                    
frontend in  order for tribes  to take on more  services for                                                                    
their beneficiaries and they  were increasing the reclaiming                                                                    
on the backend. The current  reductions were a result of the                                                                    
pandemic and because the department  was working with CMS to                                                                    
try  to redefine  the  terms of  the  state health  official                                                                    
letter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked about inflationary  and rate                                                                    
adjustments.  He  thought  they were  things  that  required                                                                    
legislative   action;  however,   he   believed  Ms.   Ricci                                                                    
described it  as an administrative adjustment.  He asked for                                                                    
clarification.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  answered  it  was  a bit  of  both.  There  were                                                                    
regulations that articulated  what increments the department                                                                    
undertook,  reviewed, or  rebased. There  were also  certain                                                                    
rates based  on national  standards called  RBRVS [Resource-                                                                    
Based Relative Value Scale] that  were updated annually on a                                                                    
national  level.  She  stated  that ultimately  all  of  the                                                                    
updates  had to  be  reflected and  approved  in the  budget                                                                    
through the legislative process.  She relayed there had been                                                                    
periods of time where rates  for certain provider groups had                                                                    
not  been updated  or rebased  in a  way that  reflected the                                                                    
regulatory  schedule. She  cited  home  and community  based                                                                    
waiver services as an example.  The items received increased                                                                    
funding  in FY  23,  but  the specific  rates  had not  been                                                                    
rebased  prior  to  that  since  2011.  There  were  certain                                                                    
services that may not be updated regularly.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci turned  to  slide 8  and  discussed two  Medicaid                                                                    
increments  in the  budget. The  first was  $2.6 million  to                                                                    
extend the postpartum  Medicaid coverage from 60  days to 12                                                                    
months.   She   detailed   that  the   coverage   had   been                                                                    
demonstrated to result in savings.  The second increment was                                                                    
$18.1 million  UGF associated with cost  increases discussed                                                                    
previously.  The  increment  included about  $7  million  in                                                                    
Medicare Part B  changes, which impacted how  much the state                                                                    
had  to pay  on  behalf  of members  who  were Medicare  age                                                                    
eligible and  participated in the  program. There  was about                                                                    
$3.2 million associated with an  increased encounter rate, a                                                                    
rate  paid   by  the  department  to   tribal  partners  and                                                                    
federally qualified health centers  (FQHC). There was a $2.3                                                                    
million increase  associated with RBRVS, the  method used to                                                                    
determine payments for  professional services. Additionally,                                                                    
there  were  some increases  associated  with  the home  and                                                                    
community based waiver services and some audit findings.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Tomaszewski    remarked    on    increased                                                                    
utilization rates.  He thought that  redeterminations should                                                                    
result  in a  decrease in  utilization rates  in the  coming                                                                    
fiscal year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  replied that there were  currently many unknowns.                                                                    
She  explained  there  was  uncertainty  at  the  state  and                                                                    
federal  level  about the  number  of  people who  would  be                                                                    
ineligible as  a result of the  redetermination process. She                                                                    
noted that another item to  consider was whether individuals                                                                    
who were no longer eligible  for coverage under the Medicaid                                                                    
program  were  individuals who  had  been  or had  not  been                                                                    
utilizing services.  She estimated that about  75 percent of                                                                    
enrollees  in the  Medicaid program  utilized services.  She                                                                    
believed the  answer to  the question  depended on  how many                                                                    
individuals were  disenrolled and whether  those individuals                                                                    
were utilizing services.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tomaszewski asked if  a person had to reapply                                                                    
annually  for   the  Medicaid  program.   Alternatively,  he                                                                    
wondered whether an enrollee was  carried on year after year                                                                    
until a redetermination occurred.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci answered  that redeterminations typically happened                                                                    
annually.  There were  some instances  and categories  where                                                                    
the timeframe was  shorter or longer. Beginning  in 2020, in                                                                    
response to  the pandemic, the review  was suspended. During                                                                    
that  timeframe  there  had   been  only  three  reasons  an                                                                    
individual   could  be   disenrolled:  the   individual  was                                                                    
deceased,  moved  to  another  state,  or  requested  to  be                                                                    
disenrolled.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci turned to slide  9 titled "Unwinding of Continuous                                                                    
Enrollment  of Medicaid."  She noted  the  unwinding of  the                                                                    
continuous  enrollment  of   Medicaid  was  more  frequently                                                                    
referred  to as  the redetermination  process. Beginning  in                                                                    
March of 2020, states  were required to maintain eligibility                                                                    
status for Medicaid beneficiaries  with the exception of the                                                                    
three  reasons she  had just  reviewed (in  response to  the                                                                    
pandemic).  However, beginning  on April  1, Alaska  and all                                                                    
other  states  would  begin  the  process  of  redetermining                                                                    
Medicaid  eligibility for  those individuals.  She explained                                                                    
the continuous  enrollment requirement was included  as part                                                                    
of  the  federal  legislation  passed  in  response  to  the                                                                    
pandemic, but  it was  initially tied to  the ending  of the                                                                    
federal public  health emergency.  She elaborated  there had                                                                    
been substantial speculation over the  past six to 12 months                                                                    
about when the  public health emergency would  end, how much                                                                    
notice states  would be given  before the end, and  how much                                                                    
time  they would  have to  prepare  for the  redetermination                                                                    
process. There  was no clear  guidance, but there was  a lot                                                                    
of speculation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci relayed  that at  the end  of December,  Congress                                                                    
passed  the  Consolidated  Appropriations Act,  2022,  which                                                                    
effectively    separated    the    continuous    eligibility                                                                    
requirements from  the public health  emergency and  it gave                                                                    
states  some  definitive  timeframes  for  when  they  could                                                                    
expect to  begin the redetermination  process, what  some of                                                                    
the rules  would be, in  addition to  how the phase  down of                                                                    
the temporary federal funding match  would occur. She shared                                                                    
that states  had been  working hard to  think about  what it                                                                    
meant and to plan for it.  She pointed to an inset window on                                                                    
the  right  of  slide  9  showing  the  phase  down  of  the                                                                    
temporary  eFMAP  over the  next  four  quarters. The  first                                                                    
stepdown would occur in April,  moving from 6.2 percent to 5                                                                    
percent.  The second  stepdown would  begin  July 1,  moving                                                                    
from  5 percent  to 2.5  percent. The  third stepdown  would                                                                    
occur on October 1, moving  from 2.5 percent to 1.5 percent.                                                                    
Beginning in January of 2024, the eFMAP was eliminated.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  continued to  discuss slide  9. She  relayed that                                                                    
part of  the guidance  released in  January was  that states                                                                    
would    have   12    months    to   complete    eligibility                                                                    
redeterminations  for all  active Medicaid  cases (beginning                                                                    
on  April  1).  States  would have  14  months  to  finalize                                                                    
disenrollments. She explained  the state had a  period of 60                                                                    
days  to work  through  the process  following  the date  an                                                                    
individual  was potentially  determined  to be  disenrolled.                                                                    
The  first disenrollments  specifically associated  with the                                                                    
redetermination effort  would start at  the end of  May. The                                                                    
federal  government was  aware the  changes would  be a  big                                                                    
lift for many states.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci relayed  that the  department had  engaged in  at                                                                    
least  two technical  calls to  talk through  the aging  and                                                                    
very   challenged   enrollment  systems:   ARIES   [Alaska's                                                                    
Resource  for  Integrated   Eligibility  Services]  and  EIS                                                                    
[Eligibility  Information System].  She elaborated  that EIS                                                                    
was the legacy  system and was very challenging  to use. She                                                                    
specified that  most of  the state's  Medicaid beneficiaries                                                                    
were enrolled in ARIES, which  was good news. She elaborated                                                                    
that programming  was already underway to  have autorenewals                                                                    
occur. She believed  the testing should be  finalized by the                                                                    
end of February. To the  degree the department would be able                                                                    
to  utilize  information   resources  from  other  databases                                                                    
within  the Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development                                                                    
(DLWD)  and  Permanent  Fund  Dividend  Division  (PFDD)  to                                                                    
complete  information for  applicants, the  systems were  in                                                                    
place  to automatically  review  those  individuals and  put                                                                    
them through  the system.  The department  did not  yet know                                                                    
what   percentage  of   the  total   renewals  would   occur                                                                    
automatically  and what  percentage  would need  to be  done                                                                    
manually. She  stated it  was one of  the big  questions the                                                                    
department was currently working to address.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  remarked on the department's  estimate that                                                                    
there were  around 263,000  Alaskan's enrolled  in Medicaid.                                                                    
He  observed that  the state  did  not know  what the  total                                                                    
number would be after the  reenrollment process. He found it                                                                    
interesting that  with a  state of  ~740,000 people,  one in                                                                    
three were  on Medicaid.  He asked if  it was  an inordinate                                                                    
amount  compared to  other states.  He  noted that  Alaska's                                                                    
population continued to taper  off; however, he believed its                                                                    
Medicaid population  was increasing. He asked  if Alaska was                                                                    
aging  as  a  state  and having  more  people  eligible  for                                                                    
Medicaid than before.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci would follow up  with exact estimates. In general,                                                                    
around 30 percent was not  unusual for other states. She did                                                                    
not believe Alaska  was unusual in the  proportion of Alaska                                                                    
residents  who   were  eligible  and  participated   in  the                                                                    
Medicaid  program.   She  addressed   why  the   number  was                                                                    
increasing. She  detailed that a  large portion  of Medicaid                                                                    
enrollment  was  based on  income  and  eligibility and  the                                                                    
state  had  some changing  economic  factors  over the  past                                                                    
eight  to  ten  years.  She  did  not  know  that  an  aging                                                                    
population had as  much impact on the  Medicaid program. She                                                                    
detailed that it did impact  portions of the program such as                                                                    
the  home and  community based  waiver system  services. The                                                                    
aging  population had  less of  an impact  on general  adult                                                                    
enrollment,   which   was  more   of   an   issue  of   rate                                                                    
reimbursement   as  more   individuals  were   eligible  for                                                                    
Medicare. As  that occurred, Medicare would  become a larger                                                                    
portion of a provider's  business, which would have economic                                                                    
impacts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  stated   that  the   previous  year   the                                                                    
legislature had  passed a  PFD that  was three  times larger                                                                    
than the prior year. He  knew there was a backfill component                                                                    
to the budget. He asked what the backfill figure may be.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci believed  Co-Chair Edgmon  was  referring to  the                                                                    
maintenance  of  effort.  She  deferred  to  Ms.  Stern  for                                                                    
detail.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  added that  the  topic  related to  income                                                                    
eligibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stern  asked for verification  that Co-Chair  Edgmon was                                                                    
referring to  the PFD hold harmless  provision. She reported                                                                    
the PFD hold harmless had  been steady over the past several                                                                    
years  at  about  $17.5 million.  Historically,  the  amount                                                                    
spent was  about $15 million.  She reported  the expenditure                                                                    
was about  $11 million  in FY  22, which  was lower  than in                                                                    
previous years.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:19:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  wondered why  the  number  would not  rise                                                                    
commensurately with the size of the aggregate PFD.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stern  clarified that  the  PFD  hold harmless  was  an                                                                    
account  for when  the PFD  was  distributed. She  explained                                                                    
that sometimes  the PFD pushed  recipients above  the income                                                                    
limit  and  then  they were  ineligible  for  services.  She                                                                    
explained it  depended on how  many individuals  were pushed                                                                    
out  of   services.  The   fund  covered   the  individuals.                                                                    
Additionally,  because   people  were  not  allowed   to  be                                                                    
disenrolled [during  the pandemic],  the actuals  were lower                                                                    
in FY 22 than in previous years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  if administrative  or ex  parte                                                                    
redeterminations would be used.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  replied that ex  parte redeterminations  would be                                                                    
used to the extent possible.  She characterized the ex parte                                                                    
redeterminations  as  automatic renewals  where  information                                                                    
was used from  other sources; however, the  method would not                                                                    
be available for all redeterminations.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  believed the income data  for ex parte                                                                    
administrative  redeterminations  generally came  from  SNAP                                                                    
applications. He  referenced the  current state of  the SNAP                                                                    
program and  asked if the state  had the ability to  use the                                                                    
income verification  used for the SNAP  program for Medicaid                                                                    
redeterminations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  replied it was  one means  that could be  used to                                                                    
inform the  ex parte  renewals, but  there were  other means                                                                    
including DLWD  and PFDD.  She deferred  to a  colleague for                                                                    
additional detail.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEB  ETHERIDGE,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  PUBLIC  ASSISTANCE,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  (via teleconference),  confirmed that                                                                    
while  SNAP   approval  expedited  Medicaid   approval,  the                                                                    
department also had the  ability through the redetermination                                                                    
process to verify income using DLWD data.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:23:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  asked how DLWD would  have income data                                                                    
for individuals in the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Etheridge answered  there was  a  shared database  that                                                                    
included  income  data  on  individuals  that  DOH  accessed                                                                    
through DLWD. She would follow up with the details.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  looked  at  the  12  to  14-month                                                                    
period as  a blessing  because it  was a  chunk of  time. He                                                                    
understood  there were  two things  going  on including  the                                                                    
redetermination  and  that   the  federal  government  would                                                                    
provide  less   FMAP  as  COVID-19  was   winding  down.  He                                                                    
referenced the  SNAP experience and  shared he had  met with                                                                    
individuals from  the Food Bank  earlier in the day  who had                                                                    
communicated  their shelves  were  empty. He  stated it  was                                                                    
hard  for laypeople  to  know the  problem  avoidance to  be                                                                    
looking for. He  provided a couple of  examples. He wondered                                                                    
if it pertained to someone who  needed surgery in a year and                                                                    
could  not  get  it  at the  federal  and  state  government                                                                    
expense or someone who got  the surgery, but the doctor went                                                                    
unpaid  because  the  patient was  Medicaid  ineligible.  He                                                                    
wanted DOH to tell him  everything it could possibly need in                                                                    
order to  avoid the problem.  He asked what would  happen if                                                                    
no redetermination was done.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci answered  that if  the state  took no  efforts to                                                                    
redetermination  eligibility, the  state  would not  receive                                                                    
the eFMAP in quarters two,  three, and four in calendar year                                                                    
2023. There  were still certain  requirements the  state had                                                                    
to undertake in  order to receive the  stepdown eFMAP. There                                                                    
were  also reporting  requirements  beginning on  Aril 8  in                                                                    
order for  CMS to  monitor how many  and what  proportion of                                                                    
the   population   the   department  was   working   through                                                                    
applications  and  how  many  were  being  disenrolled.  She                                                                    
explained that  if redetermination did  not occur or  if the                                                                    
division  was late  in making  eligibility redeterminations,                                                                    
an individual may  not be eligible for  health coverage that                                                                    
they  would otherwise  be entitled  to. She  elaborated that                                                                    
hospitals  and   providers  may  contact  the   division  to                                                                    
determine why  they were not being  reimbursed for services.                                                                    
She   highlighted  that   eligibility  errors   occurred  at                                                                    
different points  in the system  on a regular basis.  One of                                                                    
the  first indicators  in the  department's  system that  an                                                                    
error   had  occurred   was  when   people  tried   to  fill                                                                    
medications. She  explained it was  one of the  impacts when                                                                    
someone was  not properly enrolled in  the Medicaid program,                                                                    
but they were eligible for coverage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  communicated that the  department needed  and was                                                                    
exploring   partnerships.  The   department  was   exploring                                                                    
whether  it  could  benefit from  work  conducted  by  other                                                                    
entities  or   organizations  providing  care   to  Medicaid                                                                    
enrollees or collecting the information  for other uses. She                                                                    
thought  about partnership  in a  couple of  different ways.                                                                    
The first was communication:  what needed to be communicated                                                                    
to which  groups at  what point.  She explained  the process                                                                    
would be  slightly longer than  12 to 14  months. Currently,                                                                    
the  department  was  advising recipients  to  update  their                                                                    
contact information to ensure any  letters went to the right                                                                    
address.  The Division  of Public  Assistance had  set up  a                                                                    
line through its  call center for people to  call with their                                                                    
updated  contact   information.  The  department   was  also                                                                    
developing  a  draft  communications   plan  to  share  with                                                                    
stakeholders  in order  to receive  input on  any errors  or                                                                    
missing  components.  The  department was  also  working  to                                                                    
determine  whether there  were ways  it could  leverage what                                                                    
other entities or  groups were already doing  to collect the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  categorized the department's  needs in                                                                    
three separate buckets. The  first was updating information.                                                                    
The department  needed every individual on  Medicaid to call                                                                    
the  virtual call  line and  update their  information. Two,                                                                    
when  individuals  were called  up  to  be redetermined  for                                                                    
eligibility, the  department needed to  collect information.                                                                    
The  department was  actively engaged  in conversation  with                                                                    
partner   organizations  in   the  healthcare   industry  to                                                                    
determine  what  the  organizations  could  do  to  help  it                                                                    
collect the verification information.  Third, a DOH employee                                                                    
had to make the final  decision on whether an individual was                                                                    
eligible or  ineligible. She expounded  that if  someone was                                                                    
determined to be ineligible, the  department wanted to pivot                                                                    
them to a federally  facilitated marketplace to find another                                                                    
appropriate health  insurance plan.  The department  did not                                                                    
want  any  Alaskan  to  go  without  health  insurance.  The                                                                    
department  was looking  to leverage  its partnerships  with                                                                    
the healthcare  industry to ensure  it was  being innovative                                                                    
and  maximizing every  relationship to  prevent anyone  from                                                                    
being lost through the system.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked   if  the   typical  Medicaid                                                                    
redetermination process occurred annually.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ricci   replied   that  for   most   individuals   the                                                                    
redetermination  process occurred  at 12  months. She  noted                                                                    
there  may be  certain categories  of individuals  where the                                                                    
timeframe was longer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked for circumstances  where longer                                                                    
eligibility  was granted.  She  shared that  her sister  had                                                                    
passed away in January  with advancing cognitive decline due                                                                    
to  multiple sclerosis.  She detailed  that  her sister  had                                                                    
been  eligible   for  Medicaid  since   the  onset   of  her                                                                    
disability  14  years  ago.  She  explained  that  that  the                                                                    
redeterminations had become more  and more difficult because                                                                    
her sister  was an independent  adult who insisted  on doing                                                                    
the eligibility application herself.  She detailed that part                                                                    
of  her   sister's  diagnosis   was  a   cognitive  decline;                                                                    
therefore, completing  the application became more  and more                                                                    
cumbersome. She  explained there was clear  medical evidence                                                                    
her  sister's disability  would persist  and that  she would                                                                    
never hold  a job  or be eligible  for other  insurance. She                                                                    
could not imagine her sister's  circumstance was unique. She                                                                    
considered all  of the recipients  on Medicaid  with complex                                                                    
diagnoses  who  had   to  spend  a  lot   of  time  annually                                                                    
completing  the eligibility  process  and  may experience  a                                                                    
loss of coverage  for a month or two. She  asked how to move                                                                    
the individuals into a circumstance  where they did not have                                                                    
to take  up their time  and the department's time  to ensure                                                                    
their health insurance was intact.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci would  follow up on the question.  She would speak                                                                    
with  the director  of Senior  and Disabilities  Services as                                                                    
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stern  moved  to slide  10  titled  "Medicaid  Services                                                                    
Operating Budget Comparison  FY2022-FY2024." She highlighted                                                                    
that  Medicaid was  one of  the  top budget  drivers in  the                                                                    
state.  She  elaborated  that  to  draw  approximately  $1.8                                                                    
billion  in  federal  funding, the  state  leveraged  around                                                                    
$670.6 million. She relayed there  had been increases in UGF                                                                    
from  fiscal year  2022  to  2024 due  to  the cost  drivers                                                                    
discussed earlier  in the meeting.  The department  was also                                                                    
able to  collect additional  federal funds in  FY 22  due to                                                                    
the eFMAP and open-ended federal authority.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg  discussed   the  Division  of  Public                                                                    
Assistance on  slide 11.  The division  had 18  programs and                                                                    
459 full-time positions. On average  it took about two years                                                                    
to  train  an  employee  on  all of  the  18  programs.  She                                                                    
highlighted SNAP as one of the more complicated programs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  turned to  slide 12 and  discussed the                                                                    
Division  of Public  Assistance backlog.  She explained  the                                                                    
backlog was  in reference to  SNAP. She reviewed  the reason                                                                    
for the backlog. In August  of 2022, the department received                                                                    
an influx of 8,000 applications,  which was the kickstart to                                                                    
the backlog.  She detailed that  the federal  Food Nutrition                                                                    
Services (FNS) agency had a  policy stating it was necessary                                                                    
to  reverify  a  recipient's   SNAP  eligibility  every  six                                                                    
months.  The   policy  decision     whether   the  six-month                                                                    
eligibility  verification   process  was   suspended  during                                                                    
COVID-19 or not    was held in federal  court. She explained                                                                    
that Alaska  had been informed  in August of 2022  it needed                                                                    
to  start   the  verification  process.   Additionally,  the                                                                    
department  used a  legacy  EIS  IT system  for  SNAP and  a                                                                    
portion of the Medicaid program.  She expounded that the EIS                                                                    
was built on technology based  off of 1959. She relayed that                                                                    
all of the department's IT  systems had been impacted by the                                                                    
May 2022 [2021] cyber-attack on  DOH. The department had not                                                                    
initially known  the depth and  breadth of  the cyberattack.                                                                    
She explained  that all of  the department's 181  IT systems                                                                    
were  pulled  down.  The  department's  IT  staff  had  been                                                                    
redirected to  forensics analysis to ensure  it could secure                                                                    
and continue to protect  the health information of Alaskans.                                                                    
The event was significant and  DOH was still working through                                                                    
some systems that had not yet been brought back online.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg continued  to review  reasons for  the                                                                    
SNAP  backlog (on  slide 12).  She  referenced the  pandemic                                                                    
Electronic   Benefit  Transfer   (EBT)   for  children   who                                                                    
qualified  for free  lunch. When  schools shut  down due  to                                                                    
COVID-19,  funds  were  transferred  to  a  debit  card  for                                                                    
families  to purchase  food. She  detailed that  the process                                                                    
had been  manual. She explained  that the  manual processes,                                                                    
legacy IT system,  cyberattack, and the restart  of the SNAP                                                                    
eligibility  verification process  all culminated  in August                                                                    
of 2022.  She shared  that she had  started her  position in                                                                    
mid-November  and had  talked with  many  Alaskans who  were                                                                    
impacted by  the backlog.  She had  visited the  Division of                                                                    
Public  Assistance  offices,  talked with  staff,  met  with                                                                    
direct  providers  and Food  Banks  to  hear what  immediate                                                                    
solutions could be implemented.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Hedberg  discussed   immediate  actions   the                                                                    
department  was  currently  taking  [to  mitigate  the  SNAP                                                                    
backlog].  The department  was focusing  on recruitment  and                                                                    
onboarding  of its  vacant positions.  She highlighted  that                                                                    
due  to  media  coverage,   there  had  been  a  significant                                                                    
increase  in  the  number of  applications  for  eligibility                                                                    
technicians.  The department  had a  training team  with the                                                                    
capacity to train 14 eligibility  technicians at a time. She                                                                    
specified  the  department's goal  was  to  fill its  vacant                                                                    
positions and the  team was doing well  working towards that                                                                    
goal. Additionally, DOH had requested  and received about 45                                                                    
long-term  nonpermanent positions.  The  positions had  been                                                                    
recruited,  filled,  and  were  currently  in  the  training                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  relayed there  had been two  vacant IT                                                                    
positions  that   had  been   filled  by   individuals  with                                                                    
experience coding  with the antiquated  IT languages  on the                                                                    
mainframe. She  noted the  department was  awaiting approval                                                                    
to  hire for  the  two  positions that  would  focus on  EIS                                                                    
reprogramming. The department expanded  the contract for two                                                                    
contractors to provide IT staff with reprogramming support.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:42:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg  continued  to review  slide  12.  She                                                                    
highlighted the  department's virtual  call center  with the                                                                    
intended purpose of health equity.  She explained there were                                                                    
only  11  offices;  therefore,  the  call  center  had  been                                                                    
created to  help individuals with their  application process                                                                    
over  the  phone.  She  elaborated   that  the  backlog  had                                                                    
resulted in a spike in calls  that had peaked at about 2,000                                                                    
calls per  day in October  2022. She detailed that  a couple                                                                    
of weeks ago,  DOH had engaged in a  temporary contract with                                                                    
one  of its  vendors  for staffing  support  to help  answer                                                                    
calls,  answer  basic  questions, collect  information,  and                                                                    
pass  the information  on  to  the department's  eligibility                                                                    
technicians.  There were  around 30  eligibility technicians                                                                    
on the  call center and  the contracted vendors  had enabled                                                                    
the  department to  pivot trained  staff over  to processing                                                                    
applications.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg continued  to review backlog mitigation                                                                    
efforts  on  slide  12.  She  highlighted  the  department's                                                                    
efforts in crisis communication  to ensure DOH was proactive                                                                    
in getting the  word out about what caused  the issues, what                                                                    
it was doing, and in  managing expectations. She shared that                                                                    
unfortunately due  to the frustrations, there  had been some                                                                    
threats  made  by  some  Alaskans.  She  detailed  that  the                                                                    
department took  every threat very  seriously and  wanted to                                                                    
ensure  its  staff  felt  safe   when  coming  to  work.  In                                                                    
response, DOH  planned an analysis  of each of  its Division                                                                    
of Public Assistance  offices to ensure they  were shored up                                                                    
for safety.  Additionally, the larger offices  in Anchorage,                                                                    
Juneau, Mat-Su, and Fairbanks would  have security guards to                                                                    
deescalate  situations  and   respond  to  emergencies.  She                                                                    
stated that  much of  the feedback came  from DOH  staff and                                                                    
the public  assistance leadership team in  addition to input                                                                    
from  direct  providers and  Alaskans.  She  shared that  in                                                                    
2022,   the   legislature    had   provided   20   long-term                                                                    
nonpermanent positions and the  department was requesting 10                                                                    
full-time positions to invest in an IT infrastructure.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:44:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon  recalled there had been  an executive order                                                                    
in 2021  to split  the department  in addition  to Executive                                                                    
Order  121 that  had been  successful in  2022. He  recalled                                                                    
discussion about  the IT systems  and the  tremendous amount                                                                    
of processing  work. He  asked why  the old  mainframe issue                                                                    
had not been included in a  strategic outlook in the past to                                                                    
avoid the current situation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg answered that  10 years earlier the EIS                                                                    
had been  slated to migrate  to ARIES. She noted  that ARIES                                                                    
currently housed  Medicaid and  several other  programs. She                                                                    
explained that  the system had only  partially migrated over                                                                    
10 years back.  The programs remaining in EIS  were SNAP and                                                                    
a portion of  Medicaid. For the past nine  years funding put                                                                    
into  the capital  budget was  slowly  matched with  federal                                                                    
funds  to slowly  address the  reprogramming and  changes to                                                                    
get  to a  point  where  it was  possible  to  move the  two                                                                    
programs  off  of  EIS.  The  department  had  been  working                                                                    
towards the goal,  but it had not had the  funding to finish                                                                    
the transition.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon wondered  why the state had  not planned for                                                                    
the  issue.  He  highlighted  there  were  a  lot  of  needy                                                                    
families who  were suffering the  consequence of  not having                                                                    
the  system modernized  and  in place.  He  was not  blaming                                                                    
anyone, but he wondered why it  had not been planned for. He                                                                    
found  the situation  hard to  comprehend. He  remarked that                                                                    
the  attempts  to  separate the  Department  of  Health  and                                                                    
Social  Services into  two departments  had been  considered                                                                    
before the Dunleavy administration.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp looked  at slide 12 and  noted that one                                                                    
of the causes for the  backlog was listed as open enrollment                                                                    
for  federally   facilitated  marketplace.  He   stated  his                                                                    
understanding that CMS handed  off applications to the state                                                                    
when individuals were determined  to be Medicaid eligible on                                                                    
its website. He asked  about the state's potential liability                                                                    
for not enrolling a person in Medicaid in a timely manner.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  answered that  CMS could  ultimately come  in and                                                                    
specify  that Alaska  was not  meeting the  requirements for                                                                    
completing application  and enrollment  in a  timely manner.                                                                    
She  stated  CMS  could  put  the  state  on  a  performance                                                                    
improvement  plan. The  consequence  was the  impact on  the                                                                    
providers and  the patient trying  to receive  services. She                                                                    
explained that  if an application  was submitted  in January                                                                    
and  it was  worked in  the  beginning of  February, it  was                                                                    
possible   to  look   back  90   days  after   that  January                                                                    
application  was received  for services  covered. There  was                                                                    
the ability  to receive  coverage for  some of  the services                                                                    
even  if  the application  was  delayed.  She remarked  that                                                                    
retrospective  claims reviews  were always  administratively                                                                    
complicated and not ideal, but it could be done.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:50:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  remarked that  Commissioner  Hedberg                                                                    
had specified the cyberattack was  in May 2022, but slide 12                                                                    
showed  the cyberattack  occurring  in May  2021. She  asked                                                                    
which date was correct.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  replied that  the cyber-attack  was in                                                                    
2021.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  remarked  that slide  12  showed  an                                                                    
explanation of how the problem  would be fixed systemically.                                                                    
She had not  heard from the administration on  how the state                                                                    
was getting  food to hungry  families. She  underscored that                                                                    
many  families had  been without  food support  for four  to                                                                    
five months. She remarked the  state had known coming out of                                                                    
COVID  that  food  banks  were  already  stressed.  She  was                                                                    
hearing from  small community grocery  stores that  were not                                                                    
certain they  could remain  open because  SNAP beneficiaries                                                                    
had been  unable to  shop. She  noted there  were government                                                                    
emergency  food  stores  with  the  National  Guard  or  the                                                                    
Department  of Military  and  Veterans  Affairs (DMVA).  She                                                                    
asked if  there had been  any effort to  try to get  food to                                                                    
hungry  families. She  understood it  was not  something DOH                                                                    
would do, but  she wondered if there  had been conversations                                                                    
to  try  to  resolve  the  immediate  hunger  families  were                                                                    
experiencing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg  clarified   that  mitigation  efforts                                                                    
listed on slide 12 were  immediate and temporary. There were                                                                    
additional  long-term   strategies  including  transitioning                                                                    
from  EIS  to ARIES.  She  acknowledged  the frustration  by                                                                    
Alaskans  who   were  experiencing  delayed   benefits.  She                                                                    
understood  there was  an  impact and  she  had heard  heart                                                                    
wrenching  stories.  She  wanted to  ensure  the  department                                                                    
could  do  everything possible  to  make  sure families  had                                                                    
access to resources. The department  had heard from the Food                                                                    
Bank  that it  was running  through food  very quickly.  The                                                                    
department wanted to  be at the table and figure  out how it                                                                    
could work  with other state  agencies and  organizations to                                                                    
solve  the  very complex  problem  of  access to  nutritious                                                                    
foods. There  was a  recognition of  and dialogue  about how                                                                    
the state  could work through  the situation. She  stated it                                                                    
was an active conversation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  asked   if  there   had  been   any                                                                    
administrative  executive branch  agencies standing  up food                                                                    
delivery  programs  to  feed people  immediately  since  the                                                                    
start of  the crisis  in October. She  highlighted emergency                                                                    
services   through  DMVA   and  the   National  Guard.   She                                                                    
recognized it  was not the best  food, but it was  food. She                                                                    
asked  if  the  state  was  doing  anything  to  ensure  the                                                                    
outmigration of Alaskans did  not continue because residents                                                                    
could not survive the winter.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg   replied  she   heard  Representative                                                                    
Hannan's comments  and would take  the feedback back  to the                                                                    
group in  order to look  at every resource. She  stated that                                                                    
they wanted to get nutritious food out to Alaskans.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  stated the Food Bank  had told him                                                                    
two things that could be  done immediately. First, 44 states                                                                    
had broad-based category  eligibility, which essentially let                                                                    
someone  earn more  money and  step down  with food  stamps.                                                                    
Second,  the   state  could  move   to  a  12   or  24-month                                                                    
recertification. He thought  Commissioner Hedberg had stated                                                                    
the  federal  government  had  indicated  the  opposite.  He                                                                    
believed the  department had  stated the  federal government                                                                    
wanted the state to use  a six-month determination. He found                                                                    
it  to be  confusing.  He asked  why the  state  did not  do                                                                    
broad-based  categorical  eligibility  and why  it  did  not                                                                    
expand certification times.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Hedberg  answered   there   had  been   eight                                                                    
different  recommendations  from  the Food  Bank  and  other                                                                    
direct  providers.  She  explained that  the  prior  federal                                                                    
administration  had communicated  intent to  get rid  of the                                                                    
broad-based  categorical  eligibility;  therefore,  at  that                                                                    
time, DHSS  had paused on  evaluating the rule.  She relayed                                                                    
that  the  Division  of   Public  Assistance  was  currently                                                                    
reviewing "what  that is and  what it would look  like." She                                                                    
relayed that  currently Alaska had a  six-month certificate.                                                                    
She elaborated  that the state  needed to reverify  with the                                                                    
federal  Food Nutrition  Services agency  every six  months.                                                                    
The   department    wanted   to    move   to    a   12-month                                                                    
recertification, and it  had to reprogram the  EIS system in                                                                    
order   to  make   the  change.   She  explained   that  the                                                                    
reprogramming  of the  EIS system  started in  January 2023.                                                                    
The  tentative reprogramming  timeline  was January  through                                                                    
March, at  which time the  system would be tested  to ensure                                                                    
there were  no errors and  staff would be trained.  The goal                                                                    
was to roll the updated system out in the spring.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
department could move to  the 12-month determination process                                                                    
without action  being taken by the  legislature. He believed                                                                    
the change was within the governor's authority.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg agreed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Galvin   echoed    questions   asked    by                                                                    
Representative Hannan  about what  was currently  being done                                                                    
and whether the  state had thought about  an emergency order                                                                    
[related to the SNAP program].  She believed the answers had                                                                    
been  covered.  She asked  about  hiring.  She referenced  a                                                                    
statement by  the department that  two IT positions  were on                                                                    
hold awaiting permission. She asked  if the positions needed                                                                    
legislative funding or if there was another reason.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Hedberg  replied   that   as   part  of   the                                                                    
recruitment   process  the   Department  of   Administration                                                                    
reviewed the  application and concurred with  DOH's findings                                                                    
that  an individual  met the  criteria.  The department  was                                                                    
currently  waiting  for  approval  to hire.  She  noted  the                                                                    
approval was expected via email any day.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  thought   the  two   hires  sounded                                                                    
paramount for  the work  ahead. She asked  how it  was going                                                                    
with the  vacancy rate  of other  positions that  would help                                                                    
rectify the situation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  answered that  about one  week earlier                                                                    
DOH  had  four  recruitments  for  the  Division  of  Public                                                                    
Assistance  in different  job  classes.  The department  was                                                                    
seeing  a high  application rate  in the  specific division,                                                                    
which  was  not always  the  case  in other  divisions.  The                                                                    
department  had  a  team   reviewing  the  applications.  If                                                                    
applicants met  the criteria they went  through an interview                                                                    
followed by an onboarding process  once approval to hire was                                                                    
obtained.  The  department had  a  training  team that  took                                                                    
cohorts of  14 new  employees and trained  them in  the SNAP                                                                    
application process or other public assistance programs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin    appreciated   the    energy   and                                                                    
willingness of  individuals to sign on.  She highlighted the                                                                    
importance  to  Alaskan families  with  the  most need.  She                                                                    
asked how  many staff the  department intended to  hire. She                                                                    
asked for the current vacancy.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg  would  follow up.  She  answered  the                                                                    
number was decreasing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:01:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson noted the time  and asked to save questions                                                                    
until the end of the presentation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stern  reviewed  the   Division  of  Public  Assistance                                                                    
operating budget on slide 13.  The slide included the Senior                                                                    
Benefits  Payment  Program,  which was  usually  a  separate                                                                    
budgetary  line item.  The program  was included  because it                                                                    
was  operated  and  managed  by  the  division.  The  Senior                                                                    
Benefits Payment Program totaled about $20.8 million UGF.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:02:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Hedberg  noted that  Dr. Anne Zink  would speak                                                                    
to the remaining three slides.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. ANNE  ZINK, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER,  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                    
(via teleconference),  reviewed slide  14 pertaining  to the                                                                    
Division  of Public  Health. She  shared  that the  division                                                                    
served  as  the  center  point for  thinking  about  how  to                                                                    
improve  the health  and wellbeing  of Alaskans.  She stated                                                                    
there had  been a robust  conversation about the  expense of                                                                    
Medicaid  and  how  to  start   minimizing  the  costs.  She                                                                    
remarked  that  healthy  people  were  cheaper  people.  The                                                                    
division  housed  over  430 employees  and  brought  in  $50                                                                    
million  in grant  funding into  the  state. The  department                                                                    
worked   extensively  to   respond  to   disasters,  prevent                                                                    
injuries,   and   ensure   quality  and   accessibility   of                                                                    
healthcare, promoting healthy  behaviors, and working across                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr.   Zink   followed  up   on   an   earlier  question   by                                                                    
Representative  Hannan. She  relayed  that  the program  was                                                                    
currently  working with  the Balto  Box  program [a  program                                                                    
implemented the  Alaska Women,  Infants, and  Children (WIC)                                                                    
program]  that   sent  out  food  to   impacted  communities                                                                    
including  those struggling  to  get food.  The program  had                                                                    
been sending the food to one community currently.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink discussed the Healthy  Families Initiative on slide                                                                    
15. She explained the initiative  had been introduced by the                                                                    
governor to  make Alaska  the best state  in the  country to                                                                    
raise a family.  The idea was that strong  families were the                                                                    
foundation  of a  healthy society  and vibrant  economy. The                                                                    
initiative was  comprised of three primary  pillars: healthy                                                                    
beginnings, healthcare access,  and healthy communities. She                                                                    
explained  it  was  a four-year  statewide  initiative  that                                                                    
included   investments   and    ongoing   programming.   She                                                                    
highlighted  the  Fresh  Start campaign  that  used  federal                                                                    
dollars to connect Alaskans with  free services to help them                                                                    
manage their  chronic health conditions. She  referenced the                                                                    
cost of healthcare and one  of the major drivers of Medicaid                                                                    
was  related  to  chronic  conditions.  The  program  helped                                                                    
Medicaid  beneficiaries  and  any Alaskans  to  help  manage                                                                    
chronic  conditions and  have a  healthier lifestyle.  There                                                                    
was  a proposed  $9.9 million  UGF  in the  FY 24  operating                                                                    
budget  for the  Healthy  Families  Initiative. The  funding                                                                    
would go to postpartum  Medicaid extension and $2.76 million                                                                    
for TB  and $4 million  for congenital  syphilis mitigation.                                                                    
The  state was  seeing a  rapid  rise in  the diseases  that                                                                    
could  cause  long-term   devastating  health  consequences,                                                                    
which would increase costs to the state as a whole.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:05:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zinc turned  to slide  16 and  spoke about  the Healthy                                                                    
Families Initiative: Office of  Health Savings. The idea was                                                                    
to  reduce healthcare  costs while  improving the  health of                                                                    
Alaskans.  She addressed  the  challenges  of providing  and                                                                    
changing the  way Medicaid did  its work. The  initial focus                                                                    
would be  improving the Medicaid  program including  a focus                                                                    
on  subrogation, ensuring  Medicaid  was the  last payer  if                                                                    
someone  had  another type  of  insurance.  She stated  that                                                                    
pharmacy  continued to  be a  major  driver of  the cost  of                                                                    
healthcare. The  office would work to  address pharmacy cost                                                                    
and improved access to  critical medications. She elaborated                                                                    
the  work  had  been   done  through  AVAP  [Alaska  Vaccine                                                                    
Assessment Program]  that worked  broadly across  the state.                                                                    
She stated  that it looked at  pharmaceuticals and expensive                                                                    
medication  such  as  Paxlovid   or  other  medication  like                                                                    
epinephrine  and  insulin. The  office  would  also look  at                                                                    
innovative  payment  models.  She   stated  that  while  the                                                                    
Medicaid budget was  large, the state spent  more money with                                                                    
other  insurance  types  to  ensure  there  were  innovative                                                                    
payment models working across payers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:06:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stern reviewed  slide 17 showing the  Division of Public                                                                    
Health operating budget  comparison for FY 22 to  FY 24. The                                                                    
majority  of the  increase  in  UGF was  due  to the  Health                                                                    
Family Initiative  increments discussed  by Dr.  Zink. There                                                                    
was  also a  technical  adjustment in  FY  22 to  accurately                                                                    
reflect the  reimbursable services agreement  the department                                                                    
had  with the  Department of  Military and  Veterans Affairs                                                                    
for COVID-19 activities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson asked if DOH  expected the budget to change                                                                    
with the  governor's amended or supplemental  budget. If so,                                                                    
she requested updated information based on any changes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Hedberg confirmed  DOH would  send an  updated                                                                    
slide deck.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referred to slide 10  and observed                                                                    
there  was an  increase under  management plan  for Medicaid                                                                    
services and  a greater increase  in the coming  fiscal year                                                                    
on  slide  10.  He  asked  if  the  increase  reflected  the                                                                    
rebasing and inflation adjustment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  confirmed the increase  was largely  the rebasing                                                                    
and  inflation  adjustment  including  $18  million  and  $2                                                                    
million  for postpartum  [Medicaid extension].  She deferred                                                                    
to Ms. Stern for additional detail.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stern added  there were  two  increments in  the FY  23                                                                    
budget  for  Medicaid  Services  associated  with  increased                                                                    
utilization and inflation,  in addition to an  item added by                                                                    
the  legislature  for  increased  wages  for  personal  care                                                                    
attendants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:09:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin   observed  that  the   governor  had                                                                    
included funding for TB  and congenital syphilis mitigation.                                                                    
She asked if  there was any recent  data regarding chlamydia                                                                    
mitigation. She believed in the  past Alaska had been number                                                                    
one in  terms of  chlamydia cases. She  wondered why  it had                                                                    
not been included and asked for the status.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zinc responded it had  been difficult to choose the area                                                                    
to put  the most focus  on. She remarked that  gonorrhea and                                                                    
chlamydia  tended  to be  very  high  in Alaska.  There  was                                                                    
substantial  ongoing  work  and  effort  in  the  area.  The                                                                    
governor had specified funds for  congenital syphilis and TB                                                                    
because of  the rapid rise  in the diseases and  the impacts                                                                    
on  families and  communities. She  relayed that  congenital                                                                    
syphilis could be  treated with one shot  of penicillin; the                                                                    
disease could leave a child  significantly deformed for life                                                                    
and  the state  needed  to bear  the  responsibility of  the                                                                    
cost.  She   noted  that   tertiary  syphilis   could  cause                                                                    
significant mental health and  health challenges for adults.                                                                    
The state had much higher rates  for TB and had seen a rapid                                                                    
rise since the pandemic.  She explained that intervening now                                                                    
would make  a large  difference. She noted  it did  not mean                                                                    
that  ongoing work  for other  diseases  such as  chlamydia,                                                                    
gonorrhea, and  HIV    that was  currently having  a cluster                                                                    
outbreak    did  not continue.  The department  had selected                                                                    
the  two specific  diseases because  the spending  and focus                                                                    
could have  the biggest  impact on  Alaska's health  for the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Johnson   thanked    the   presenters   for   the                                                                    
presentation  and reviewed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB  39  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  41  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:12:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:12 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DOH HFIN Presentation Budget Slides 2.14.2023.pdf HFIN 2/14/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 39